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 Why the OT is not the word of God

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يوسف عمر
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مُساهمةموضوع: Why the OT is not the word of God   الأحد 18 سبتمبر - 1:24

First of all , we will talk about the word “God” which mentioned at the Old Testament (OT) or the (Law Book)

The word “God” does not mean the Real God.

It could be any one or any thing

And around the world, there are lots of people who worshiped gods, for example, some worship cows, some worship rocks, some worship trees.. etc

But, is there a name of that god in the OT?

Well there is one, and it is Yehwah, or Jehovah in other versions.

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them”
Exedous 6/3

The big surprise is that Yehwah is not the god's name in the OT, but it is the name of the moon god in the Egyptians civilization as seen at the book of (Tempest & Exodus).






And at the African Encyclopedia, Part 7:






The question is, why did God take a name not mentiond at the OT which suppose to be His Holy Book


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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الأحد 18 سبتمبر - 14:41

Look at some of the verses at the Old Testament

But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you? Then Rabshakeh stood and cried with a loud voice in the Jews' language, and spake, saying, Hear the word of the great king, the king of Assyria” Kings2/18/27-28


“And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them. Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth. Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith
Ezekiel/4/12-15


“Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it
Malachi/2/3

Could a book like this be a Holy Book
Does God really order us to but dung on our bread, or throw it on the faces of others
What do humanity gain from an action like this


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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الأحد 18 سبتمبر - 15:04

The Story of Adam in the OT

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them”
Genesis/1/27

That could not happen, as a human being is a creature that has limits, has different types of organs which unit with each other to perform an action to keep him alive. A human being needs air, water, and food, needs to get rid of his body waste otherwise it will poison him. A human being could suffer from hunger and thirst, sleep or wakeup, remembers or forget, get sick or heal, and needs medicine in some cases. A human being passes so many changes starting from the minute he/she is born till the time of his death

God’s ability has not limits. God’s ability is not able to be changed due to sickness or fatigue. As a result, God would never create a human being like Him


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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الإثنين 19 سبتمبر - 3:43

The OT mentioned that God has forgot the reason of creating Adam

“And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”
Genesis/2/18

How can we believe that
How can we admit that God Who is the Creator of the whole universe with such a perfect system with no one single error, could create a human being without knowing the reason behind it

And if that is the case, how can I (as a person), worship a god who has incomplete knowledge, or not wise enough to trust him, how can I ask him, and what if he forgets to answer me

This is absolutely, does not make any sense

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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الإثنين 19 سبتمبر - 4:48


well done professor

Complete , Allah bless you



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Like a Star @ heaven     ملتقانا الجنة ان شاء الله    Like a Star @ heaven

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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الثلاثاء 20 سبتمبر - 16:01

Genesis/6/3, confirms that Eve was the one who started eating from the tree, and then give the fruit to Adam

“And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat

The above conflicts with another verse in Genesis/2/18 which says

“And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him

As a result, God created Eve to assist Adam, but an assistant will never be a debauched!. And that takes us to another conclusion confirming “Eve is innocent”. Therefore, either God is lying (which cannot be the case), or the verse has been twisted
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الخميس 22 سبتمبر - 19:55

At the OT, God has prevented Adam from eating the fruit of the Knowledge Tree as in Genesis/2/17

“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die


According to the OT, the tree is called “Tree of the knowledge of good and evil”. Why God did not want Adam to eat from that tree if it will gain Adam this knowledge? Why God did not want Adam to know the difference between good and evil? Why God created Adam if He did not want to teach him that fact?

Therefore, either God is not wise enough to be worshipped (which cannot be the case), or the verse has been twisted
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الأحد 25 سبتمبر - 22:36

In Genesis/3/16 is says

“Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children


The above verse conflicts with the mercy of God, and conflicts with another verse in Exodus/20/12 which says

“Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee


According to common sense, if God wants us to honor our parents, then why He gave Eve that pain as a punishment

So either God is lying (which cannot be the case), or the verse has been twisted
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الإثنين 3 أكتوبر - 21:26


The OT confirmed that God had cursed the Earth after Adam has eat from the tree, as in Genesis/3/17

“And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life


First of all, the Earth was created before Adam. And when you look around, you will see how God has formulated the Earth in a way that it would be suitable for planting and growing several of plants. God had created clouds, winds, seasons, and filled the sky with lots of marvelous light stars. Could anyone expect what would happened to Adam if all of this was not accomplished before his creating?.

Moreover, God made arrange the whole universe to be working systematically without interruption by the sins of human beings. The sun for example, is always there to rise for us, air does not decrease by the numbers of un-believers, and night comes always after day and never conflicts with our thankfulness to the Lord

As a result, the reality proves that we are blessed with millions of gifts without even paying attention to them, which means the verse above has been twisted
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الخميس 13 أكتوبر - 15:23

The story of Prophet Noah at the OT

Genesis/6/19-20 “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive”

Genesis/7/2-3 “Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth”

Genesis/7/9 “There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.”

The contradictions in these verses are as follows:

1- The number of animals who went inside the ark was TWO, then SEVEN, then TWO again!

2- The Lord ordered Noah to collect every living thing of all flesh inside the ark. That means All animals, All birds, and All fish. How the ark had the capacity to include all of them?

3- How come that the Lord, Who created such a perfect universe, can do a mistake in Math..!

The result, these verses have been twisted.
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الجمعة 21 أكتوبر - 9:54

The OT confirmed that the flood kill all the living creatures on the planet except the ones in the ark

Genesis/7/23 “And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark”

The death of every living thing on earth except the ones in the ark, conflicts with the mercy of God, and conflicts with so many archeology and historic facts discovered by the scientists  

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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: Why the OT is not the word of God   الإثنين 7 نوفمبر - 2:28

In Genesis/9/20-27


And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

The book confirmed that Noah was alcoholic, as he drank and strip in front of his sons. The questions is, why God gave the permission to Noah to act like that without punishment? Why God did not punish Ham as he did not cover his father? Does the story of Noah qualified to be studied in the book

The reality is, the whole story is fake. The Jews lied by saying that Ham is the father of Canaan (Arabs), while the truth is “Sam is the father of Arabs” according to speech by Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)

The second thing is that Prophet Noah is a great prophet and a messenger of God, and prophets will not do such a thing as they are role models
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